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Post by Ryan Burger on Sept 20, 2005 15:41:55 GMT -5
For players only, please!
Have you ever bought or sold in-game money or items for non-game money?
Ans 1: Yes, I've bought *and* sold in-game items or money for non-game money. Ans 2: Yes, I've bought in-game items or money with non-game money. Ans 3: Yes, I've sold in-game items or money for non-game money. Ans 4: Nope, I've done neither.
If you're able, leave a brief reply describing a typical transaction for you.
Thanks!
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Post by tinytibb on Sept 21, 2005 15:34:52 GMT -5
Typical transaction... really not much to say... its just a transaction, i've only done it 2 or 3 times but... like, seriously, there are websites that function as like, quicky marts or something that are totally like, entirely about some selling stuff - its just like buying anything else online, just that delivery usually takes less time :-P.
As for selling things myself, I never did that in an mmo, but anyone who played Diablo 2 enough to know what an soj was will tell you it had its own economy anyways. So it totally counts. E-Bay all the way!
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Post by Aer on Sept 21, 2005 19:14:48 GMT -5
I am really in to playing WoW but I think its just about the stupidest thing ever to buy in-game money or items for real money. I figure if I have to pay $15 a month to play the game, why spend more? As far as in-game money goes, it is clearly not hard to come by. Kill a few mobs and you made some good money. No point in wasting good ole American dollars.
(on a not serious note: Tim your still a loser for buying stuff with real money ;D)
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Post by nemoutopia on Oct 29, 2005 20:45:15 GMT -5
Spending RL money for in-game stuff just plain confuses me. Doesn't that take away part of the game? You know, working for it? I pay for my MMO already, so I intend to enjoy playing it, not spending MORE money so that I have no need or desire to actually play. I can understand that sometimes (misunderstanding) parents want to "do something nice" like that for a kid. I say, want to do something nice? Make the kid their favorite food and throw a party for them and their friends. They'll thank you more, enjoy it more, and be more social in RL for it. Again, just my 2 influence.
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Post by nemoutopia on Oct 30, 2005 13:14:48 GMT -5
Extra thoughts from an On-line friend: "People will pay for shortcuts." I think that really sums up a lot of the mentality right there. Just like people will pay for shortcuts in RL, they'll pay for shortcuts in their game. I think this has to do with them relating a little unhealthily to the game: they percieve their counterparts AS themselves...just 2 influence from my buddy Haskor
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Post by akimbo on Oct 31, 2005 2:58:12 GMT -5
I've actually been playing MMOs for a very long time although I haven't recently (ex. since I've been to college). I've played Ultima Online for nearly five years and I beta-tested Everquest before it began. As far as buying and selling is concerned, I've only ever sold things using eBay for Ultima Online and Diablo 2. Honestly, my whole idea about the entire thing was why not? The game was only about $15 and I had to pay about $10/month. After playing long enough, I learned all the neat little shortcuts commonly known as "power-gaming" and could roll out powerful characters in very little time. I could play the game for two months and make an Ultima Online character that had three grandmaster skills, a castle, and somewhere around one million gold in his bank account and sell it on eBay for at least $500. I mean, heck $30 for $500, that's just good business to me. Also, along with Diablo 2, people will just pay an arm and a leg for an SOJ (Stone of Jordan). When you master item duplication bugs and have a bugged SOJ which has amazing stats, people don't know and will pay real money for them. I don't really feel particularly bad about taking people's money this way. The way I look at it, it's just doing business. People demand a fast way to receive powerful items and I supply those items at a price profitable to myself.
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Post by Nick Wade on Oct 31, 2005 11:07:17 GMT -5
On FFXI, buying/selling is considered illegal by Square-Enix, but that does not stop it. I know in my early days I worked hard to get money and it took a lot of time. Now that my lvl is much higher, my income is also. I have never bought or sold, simply b/c it is illegal and I've spent too much time building my character to have him deleted b/c I took a shortcut.
However, if you don't have a source of in game income, looking at it economically can make a lot of sense. You pay $15 to play for one month. You can buy lets say 1mil gil (FFXI money - exchange rate varries too much for me to be exact) for $15 So if you spent a month only trying to make money and you made 1mil gil, and you have limited play time, would you rather spend all that time making money or buy it in about 5 mins or however long it takes and get on with doing what you really want to in the game.
Some ppl say that buying gil ruins the game. IMO it ruins ppl's appreciation of the game. If you earned the money yourself, you'll be a lot more careful with it.
Another factor in FFXI is you can't get money quickly from killing mobs. Bees and worms don't carry cash. A majority of the money-making invovles player to player trades, mostly through the Auction House. This means that players directly influence the buying/selling price for most everything in the game. The market is volital and very tricky and difficult to keep up with. Inflation, supply and demand are very real factors to the in-game economy. It is clear that many ppl can't or don't want to spend the time to understand it, and so they just buy gil and get on to making a high- lvl char and care nothing about the economy or the game as a whole
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